Compiled Labyrinth Lord Poll

[AndrewNI]

Having a compiled book is certainly going to be a treat. I do very much like the overall trade dress, and interior artwork to the current LL and AEC. With new art, I hope that the style is consistent like the current versions. That really make it look top-notch. As for adding or changing content, I think it's almost mandatory. In effect, this will be a new printing or edition with added errata and general fixes. That's certainly a plus on its own, but to make this new tome with even a little new material makes it a must-buy. That doesn't invalidate the older printing in anyway. But, new material will add in value to potential buyers, myself included. I also plan to contribute and mightily support this endeavor.

~O

Fixing up some of the mistakes and oversights in LL and AEC would be good, not that I've encountered that many at all. I can understand how adding new material would draw in more buyers, but personally I would buy it regardless. I'm a bit of an LL fanboy, if I'm using that word correctly.

[Eldrad]

Personally I don't want anything added that's not already in LL or AEC.

Same here.

One thing I would like to see (and I think many would agree) is a few brief pages of "optional" race and class choices as presented in a certain unnamed arcana book that became unearthed. Though some may disagree, I think this would be a great selling point.

Other possible but less desired additions would be cantrips.

What optional options would you like to see?

Personally I don't want anything added that's not already in LL or AEC.

Same here. I want something that is an integrated, convenient alternative to the existing material, not a replacement or add-on.

I'm getting some ideas together. Will be busy the rest of this year but I think launching something the first part of 2014 is realistic. It will have to be a Kickstarter because I anticipate art costing a lot for this one.

Whoa not gonna use the existing artwork? I love Zieser's illustrations!

One thing I would like to see (and I think many would agree) is a few brief pages of "optional" race and class choices as presented in a certain unnamed arcana book that became unearthed. Though some may disagree, I think this would be a great selling point.

Other possible but less desired additions would be cantrips.

What optional options would you like to see?

Personally I don't want anything added that's not already in LL or AEC.

The rules need a few tweaks added to them. Like I said to satisfy everyone red the book in a compiled form and then have an appendices of "optional" rules taken from arcana that was unearthed and such. That way everyone gets what they want out of this new edition.

[Vile]

The rules need a few tweaks added to them. Like I said to satisfy everyone red the book in a compiled form and then have an appendices of "optional" rules taken from arcana that was unearthed and such. That way everyone gets what they want out of this new edition.

Well, that depends. Even if the optional material is tucked into appendices, if there is a lot of it then it will add quite a bit to the page count and hence the cost, not to mention the physical size of the book. LL+AEC makes sense as one book because that is how most people seem to be using the rules anyway. The reason I would prefer to stay away from optional material is because, if it's optional, then it really should be in another book.

To clarify exactly what I personally would prefer is an integrated version of the existing rules, with known errata fixed, and new or additional art an optional extra (i.e. it won't influence my decision to buy one way or the other). My definition of errata is actual mistakes like typos, or points where the rules do not work and a fix has been found. I wouldn't like to see any more departure than that to maintain maximum backwards compatibility. That is only my personal preference, of course, and it's up to Goblinoid Games to decide.

[Omote]

Making the new combined version of LL+AEC backwards compatible is probably the way to go, and adding clarification is critical. However, adding stuff (and just as example, new classes, spells, magic items, etc.) to the existing game will not change the previous versions. Added value is a boon in itself, and adding more material would certainly not turn me off to the new version of the Combined book. GG may see things differently, but I am certainly excited to see fixes and a least a little new stuff.

~O

[Wulfgar22]

LL+AEC makes sense as one book because that is how most people seem to be using the rules anyway. The reason I would prefer to stay away from optional material is because, if it's optional, then it really should be in another book.

To clarify exactly what I personally would prefer is an integrated version of the existing rules, with known errata fixed, and new or additional art an optional extra (i.e. it won't influence my decision to buy one way or the other). My definition of errata is actual mistakes like typos, or points where the rules do not work and a fix has been found. I wouldn't like to see any more departure than that to maintain maximum backwards compatibility. That is only my personal preference, of course, and it's up to Goblinoid Games to decide.

Exactly how I feel.

[greyarea]

LL+AEC makes sense as one book because that is how most people seem to be using the rules anyway. The reason I would prefer to stay away from optional material is because, if it's optional, then it really should be in another book.

To clarify exactly what I personally would prefer is an integrated version of the existing rules, with known errata fixed, and new or additional art an optional extra (i.e. it won't influence my decision to buy one way or the other). My definition of errata is actual mistakes like typos, or points where the rules do not work and a fix has been found. I wouldn't like to see any more departure than that to maintain maximum backwards compatibility. That is only my personal preference, of course, and it's up to Goblinoid Games to decide.

Exactly how I feel.

Agreed

[Black Wyvern]

I agree too.

And fix leather armor.

[Eldrad]

fix Leather armor.

Let Elves be Rangers to 8th to 10th level.

[greyarea]

Suggestion: If you do a Kickstarter campaign, have a stretch goal be an enhanced or augmented PDF version, with lots of hotlinks and whatnot. (Nova Praxis and EABA are examples of this.)

Epub and Mobi versions could make for another (easier) stretch goal.

[Mach Front]

Let Elves be Rangers to 8th to 10th level.

Please don't. That's not the way it is in AD&D and besides, why would elves partake of a class that's meant to represent human fighters who roam remote wilds for the purpose of protecting human civilization from the dangers of those wilds? Elves homes are the wilds. Rangers* in OD&D and AD&D are not the 'friends of of the forest'/tree-hugger class they tended to be viewed as and became in AD&D2E.


*(though, admittedly, in Vol.1, #2 of The Strategic Review (Summer 1975) then-18-year-old Joe Fischer designed more of an Aragorn Mary Sue class than an actual ranger class, but still)